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What sort of titles entitle you to not have to kneel before the Pope?

Marianne L asked:


I recently learned that the 18th Duchess of Alba does not have to kneel before the Pope.

From W Magazine Online: “The Duchess, known to her friends as Gayetana, claims 47 titles, 18 of which carry “the dignity of Grancee of Spain.” She does not have to kneel before the Pope. She alone, it is said, can ride into the Seville Cathedral on horseback. And since the Duchess is a descendant of James II, it has been claimed that Queen Elizabeth, an upstart Saxe-Coburg-Gotha, should bow to her.”

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23 Responses to “What sort of titles entitle you to not have to kneel before the Pope?”

  1. Galactic Emperor says:

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    You may find more answers on this site as well…

  2. Steve P says:

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    The duchess has a big collection of minor spanish nobility titles, the most senior being duchess of Alba. She is descended from the illegitimate son of the deposed King James II.

    HM Queen Elizabeth II is a legitimate descendant of James’s aunt, Queen Elizabeth of Bohemia, eldest daughter of James I. Her line can be traced to William the Conqueror (she still claims the title of Duke of Normandy) and her titles include Queen of England, Scotland and Northern Ireland, Queen of Canada, Queen of Australia, Queen of New Zealand and a dozen other nations besides. Her titles Duke of Lancaster and Duke of Normandy are older than the Duch of Alba. As head of the Church of England the Queen doesn’t bow to the Pope and certainly not to a Spanish duchess.

  3. daisy says:

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    I have no titles, and still I wouldn’t bow to the pope or any man

  4. breyet_leyet says:

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    I don’t think you have to kneel to the Pope. Most people who see the Pope might want to. I would say any queen of a country would not have to kneel to the Pope. So the report would be correct, but up to the monarch or even the person. The Pope is ruler of? Rome, the church? Unless you submit your crown and country to the pope you would not bow to him.
    As we don’t have to bow to the anti christ. there is no law to bow to anyone. Although centuries past they probably killed you for not bowing to the pope and what not, because the power was more than just church.
    So for better or worse, until Jesus rules and takes over, with the wickedness of men, maybe it is good, at times the two are separate. problem comes when Christians are denied the right to express their faith. Why can’t a child wear a Jesus shirt, or dress as Jesus at Halloween or school. It is okay to dress as a devil, vampire, whatever, but you suspend a child for dressing as Jesus That is ridiculous and ignorant, of moronic school officials, and each case should be taken to court for discrimination.
    America should not discrimnate for who you worship, even if you don’t agree with their choice of god, that goes for that flyin spagetti guy also.

  5. NewlyBorn says:

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    PRAISE THE LORD…!!! I didn’t know that…!

  6. Violet says:

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    EVERY HUMAN BEING.

  7. Feathered Serpent says:

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    being a human.

  8. Jim from SSI, GA says:

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    We don’t kneel before the Pope.
    What you see many times is no different than a “curtsy” greeting that a person in the UK gives to the Queen.

  9. blueeyed grl says:

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    The pope does not REQUIRE anyone to kneel before him. The president doesn’t…I haven’t and if one wishes to watch the pope on catholictv.com….I haven’t watched anyone kneel before him.

  10. MR. AGONISTIC says:

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    i pitty the pope

  11. Dreamstuff Entity says:

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    “Maverick”.

  12. deskpotato says:

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    My wife calls me the ‘Gifted one’

  13. superb9006 says:

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    The pope holds no authority over me, or anyone for that matter. So I don’t need a title to not kneel to him.

  14. Damian C says:

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    Well, I’m atheist, so I don’t need to kneel to the pope, that’s a good title right there. I’m not so sure about the queen for me personally, although, I really wouldn’t mind it.. However that is also a chance to get an eyeful of ancient queen cleavage so I would probably rather avoid that.

  15. Mr. X says:

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    I have never knelt before him either. So what does that make me?

  16. hyper_logic says:

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    thy self ist thy credentials

  17. stanleys_2001 says:

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    Agnostic?

    Atheist?

    Taliban?

  18. dumbdumb says:

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    Satanist all others bow before the right hand of god on earth

  19. birdsflies says:

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    I don’t kneel to no man or woman, But to God only.

  20. tarheel_9999 says:

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    Atheist.

  21. Boloski says:

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    holy slut

  22. ParanoidPsycho says:

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    GOD, and its the pope on his knees there LMAO

  23. The Tao of Atheism. says:

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    A bone fracture in the leg?

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